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September 2007 Exhaust Notes

A Great Place For Tech Answers From Industry Experts, Not Such A Great Place For Love Advice.

Sep 1, 2007
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Do not back up, severe damage may occur!

My son has a '00 Civic Si. We were replacing the timing belt last weekend. Reading the Chilton or Haynes repair manuals leaves a lot to the imagination. In searching the web, we came across your site and in particular the article "Keeping Time." It was a godsend with its information. However, in locating the TDC, we rotated the engine backwards (clockwise). In the Chilton's manual it says, "Do not rotate the engine backwards." What harm can be caused by this? How can we correct this error? Thanks for any advice you can give. -Pete Kuchenski / Magnolia, Texas

2018 Honda Civic
$18,940 Base Model (MSRP) 28/40 MPG Fuel Economy
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If you rotate the crank backwards (clockwise), the belt will slip on the cam gears, so your cam timing will no longer be correct.

I recommend that you contact Helm Inc. and buy a copy of the service manual for your car/engine. These are the official Honda shop manuals and there are no substitutes that are worth buying. We follow the Helm's manual like the Bible here.-Larry Widmer, Endyn


Frankenstein's new head

I'm a longtime reader and love the things that you all put in the magazine. I have gotten a lot of info from your magazine and I have had a few 4G Civic B series swaps and one 4G Civic H swap. I just got the July '07 Honda Tuning magazine and I see this guy did a K24 block and K20 head for his motor and my question is: Can you tell me how easy or hard is this swap and is it like the B18 block and B16 head swap where you have to redo the oil line for the head to get the right oil? Also, have you done this block and head swap to the K24 to K20 and what's the deal with it as far as what's needed. Thank you for the info.-Rick Eckhoff / Hagerstown, Md

The K24/K20 Frankenstein is actually easier than the LS/VTEC Frankenstein. The K20 head can simply be bolted on and the block will supply the head with the needed oil. No tricks, just bolt it on, tune it, and go. The only thing I caution you on is don't rev too high. The valve clearance pockets in the pistons aren't cut for the high lift cams found on the K20A2 head. In fact, this is why the TSX engine (Honda's version of the K24/K20 Frankenstein) limits the VTC to only 25 degrees of advance.-Brian Gillespie, Hasport Performance


My weave looks nappy

I have a '01 Honda Prelude SH with a carbon hood, trunk, Mugen style wing, front fenders and eyelids. I would like to know, how do I keep the carbon looking new? My trunk is in bad shape and my hood is starting to "burn", what do I do? Also, I see the carbon looking yellow, why? Please help! This is my everyday driver and I don't know what to do. Thanks for your time.-Tony / Norwalk, Calif.

Good Question. A lot of the cheap carbon-fiber hood manufacturers use a low-grade resin that is not UV protected and it causes the carbon to have a yellow tint or even clouding in extreme cases. The best way to avoid it is to start with a product from one of the more well known companies such as BRS Autodesign or Seibon who have done the R&D to produce a newer advanced product. If you happen to have an older hood or part that has already turned yellow you can sand it down almost to the carbon and then have a body shop re-clear the hood with an added black tint almost like they were "smoking" a set of taillights. Having had this problem, I recommend using BASF Clear. It seems to bond well and resists future fading. -Leigh Guarnieri / BRS Autodesign

R18 Swap

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I'd like to know if your magazine will do a fourth generation Civic/CRX swap using the eighth generation 1.8L SOHC-VTEC. I only ask because it's probably more affordable to those who can't afford the K-series motor.R18 Swap
I'd like to know if your magazine will do a fourth generation Civic/CRX swap using the eighth generation 1.8L SOHC-VTEC. I only ask because it's probably more affordable to those who can't afford the K-series motor.

I would appreciate a reply about this subject because it's one of the swaps that people like me are waiting for. It would still be a worthwhile swap because it puts out very decent power AND torque with the benefit of excellent fuel economy.-Vince P. / HT Inbox

There is a problem with your original proposition. It would not be less expensive. A quick scan of the salvage yards show the best price for an R18 engine is around $650, the same price that many yards are selling the K24 from the '03 Accord and up. Transmissions are the same, around $650. The five-speed EP3 transmissions are available for $500. Then there's the problem with mounts; currently no one makes them for the eighth generation motor. If you have fabrication skills and this isn't a problem then it would be just as easy to make them for a K24. Plus, you could take advantage of the Accord five-speed transmission that sells for as little as $350.

Then there is the ECU and wiring. The stock ECU would require many new little parts added to your fourth generation Civic or REX to operate code free like immobilizer transponder, fuel tank pressure, secondary O2 and miscellaneous relays just to name a few. I'm sure there are some stand-alone systems that could run the R18, as long as you switch from drive-by-wire to cable throttle actuation. Most likely that would require some sort of adapter since the R18 manifold is plastic so you can't just tap a few new holes.

The R18 engines need to pile up in the salvage yards for a while and get cheaper, then someone may take the time to check them out. It will be tough though, the Accord K24s are cheap and plentiful and a simple cam change makes 200 hp easy to do. The R18 will have a hard time beating that trick.-Brian Gillespie, Hasport Performance


The Love Doctor Is In

I first want to commend you on an absolutely badass mag. I especially like that you incorporate Honda's F1 and JGTCC programs. I find your tech articles great and the types of cars featured are nothing short of "F#%K"! I thought about writing to you because your magazine was the only thing I had in my hands while enduring some very heavy thinking. It was my "security blanket" so to speak.

I'm sure there are many enthusiasts out there who have been confronted and dominated by women who have given ultimatums that typically go like this: "Me or your car." I can understand not wanting to let that special someone go but I don't understand why one has to give up their passions for such women when it is the passion that makes the man, and the car, that these women fell in love with in the first place.

Personally, I have always taken care of my girl. Our arguments were far and few between until I heard the usual "You are spending too much time on your car and not on me". Well, my reply has always been, "I have always spent this much time on my car, it's you whom I have allowed time from it." I think that it's terribly unfair for someone to have another commit time and love to a relationship, marry and then stab them in the back with trying to change their significant other into a controlled idiot. In Spanish we call it "superman" which is short for "supermandilon." It means you do as you are told-like a bitch, by a bitch.

I also don't understand why women feel that our passion for cars will end after our first build or car show. So, in the spirit of defense for who and what I am I say ,"No, if you don't like it maybe you should leave. Why keep wasting your time trying to change me? I'm not going to change and what kind of respect toward me, is that?" I'm 34, don't abuse drugs, struggled my entire life to have what I have, never cheated on any woman and I have been there for her when no one else has. I'm not a bad person. My passions make me who I am and I have many. All of which she knew when we first met. At that time it was not a problem. Then she met other f#%d-up women and their bitch-assed men.

Well, to cap this letter, it was your magazine that took me away from that thought process. The people, the shows, the DIY tuners who brought this whole thing to life and of course, you, the magazine that gives us inspiration, advice and that little moment of bliss and stability when our lives are turned upside down. How much for a lifetime subscription you say?????-Your newest fan / HT Inbox

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We are all "supermandilon." Our only hope is to manipulate what we are told. If the issues you were dealing with were simply financial the most popular tactic would be to lie your ass off. Lies and deception are the keys to any long-lasting relationship. You just have to be smart about it. Many modifications such as upgraded tires, shocks and even engine swaps, can be creatively categorized under maintenance and repair. Other non-visible items, such as headers and sway bars, can be purchased with money laundered through fictitious loans to friends and relatives that she already doesn't like. Things like wheels, exhaust tips and anything in the interior need to be straight up on the books. These things will get noticed and could lead to an investigation that will blow your cover.

The time issue is a whole different story though. You may have to multitask brother. Spend time with her and the car at the same time. It's a risky move but getting her involved with car meets and races could be the solution to your problems. There's the risk she'll realize that all you needed were new spark plugs when you swapped that B16, but before long you may be getting orders to get out in the garage and prep the car for the next event.

I'm prescribing you a girly shirt for her to wear at the next car show. It is being provided by Password:JDM and can be seen on our lovely race queen of the month, Stephanie Reynolds.-Dr. Love


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